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A Dark Truth: MKULTRA’s Hidden Impact on Society w/ Grey | Episode 137
On Episode 137 of The TLB Podcast, James speaks with Grey, a survivor and experiencer of MKUltra-style behavioral modification programs, and the creator of Organize Safety — a platform that enables survivors of covert government and psychological manipulation to safely report and corroborate their experiences.
Grey opens up about his personal history growing up within MKUltra-like programs, exploring the multi-layered systems of conditioning that shape both individuals and society, the challenges faced by whistleblowers and the blurred lines between government secrecy and disclosure, the influence of psychological operations in culture, and how programs like GATE intersect with social engineering.
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Organize Safety Report/Intake → https://www.organizesafety.org
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Chapters
00:00 - Intro
07:27 - Motivation Behind Organize Safety
14:01 - Realization of Personal Identity
19:56 - Levels of Programming and Conditioning
27:27 - Cognitive Dissonance and Public Perception
39:59 - The Nature of Black Projects and Behavioral Modification
44:52 - The Truth Behind Disclosure
54:52 - The Real Monsters, Humans
01:10:27 - The Current Whistleblower Landscape
01:15:38 - Gilgo Beach Murders and Black World Connections
01:28:48 - The Illusion of Disclosure
01:35:44 - Cultural Reflections on Trauma and Abuse
01:42:31 - The Psychological Impact of Abduction Experiences
01:48:57 - Occult Practices and Non-Human Intelligence
01:59:56 - Nazi Programs in Modern Research
02:10:03 - The GATE Program
02:17:36 - Origins of GATE and Psychological Testing
02:24:01 - Talent Selection and Mind Control
02:30:15 - The Mechanisms of Control and Activation
02:42:16 - Empowering Awareness and Critical Thinking
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